Post by Eliza Orlins on Oct 25, 2010 11:54:44 GMT -5
i wonder... how long you've been playing these games?
i wonder if you've been around long enough to remember times when everyone hadn't already formed their groups, made their friends, cemented their cliques. back when these types of things were RELATIVELY new, when you could enter a game honestly and be on the same level playing field as everyone else.
i do. i remember a time like that. when you could come into a game without worrying about finding out who is who and shit. god that is annoying. without worrying about if you've pissed so and so off in a previous game, or if you were allies with whoever and so now you have to worry about how whoever will react if you don't plan on being allies with them again.
where you dont have the same fucking five people doing good in every game because they find out they have friends in EVERY game.
people should just start using aliases. i've seen games where you weren't ALLOWED to tell people who you were. mind you, most of the time in those games the end has been a group of people who joined together and who knew who eachother were, but atleast the host would make it an... actually i can't say that... there really is no way to govern that sorta thing. but i like the idea of it. forcing people to hide their identities. that way it's not just "oh yeah this is who i was in BT" "okay lets go to the end together then".
stupidity. utter fucking stupidity. who wants a recurring game for their entire career in ORGs? seriously.
there are some cliques that i know of who have quite literally been stuck in a loop for years. playing the same goddamn game over and over again with the same people, with the same results. and how do you find that fun?
keep in mind i am not talking abt any one game. i am just speaking generally...
i sometimes have fun with it... when people start doing that "so have you played before? have i ever played with you?" thing... i quite often just like to tell them straight out who i am, why people think i am the enemy, and what i'v done before. i use the whole past is the present tense idea exactly as they will, for shits and giggles. i never used to when i gave shit about my record and my stats. but nowadays you hear so much "oh this person did this in this game and tye were like this in this game so we gotta get them out right now in this game" bullshit. honestly, a big part of me feels like if that's what it's going to boil down to, why put a lot of water in the pot? why not just put like a tablespoon and make it quick, and make it easy...
if you know what i'm saying
that's what all-stars is for. recurring characters. it's legitimate to say "in season one of this series this person did this to me, now that it's all-stars i want revenge". that is legitimate. it's not legitimate to say "a year ago in some fuckin random game i got screwed and now me and all my friends are gonna screw you".
get over it. i've done that to make a point. to bring attention to clique-warfare and how childish and petty and pathetic it is.
funny thing.... the completely backwards thing... about tis whole topic is that, in my experience (and i've a wealth of it), most of this "clique warfare" is initiated by the people with the biggest cliques. the people that really don't need to be this childish. and the people who would never ever see for a second that they are childish... lol...that's who is, if anyone is, to blame.
see, i am quite often very childish. in several.... SEVERAL ways. and stupid. but atleast i'm mateur enough to notice the dumbassness of my ways. not saying i'll ever change it, but i see it. i recognize it. and that's something... atleast.
and yeah i guess there is a part of me that is just kinda jealous of tese big cliques these days. i used to be a part of it. for awhile there i literally got to be a part of the problem i am talking abt. a lot of it happens without even intending it, too. you just end up with people you've been with before and shit carries over, naturally. it just does. so and so expects you to be their friend as you were before, another so and so expects you to be after them as you were before... no one talks abt it, buries the hatchet, and so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, so to speak.
and there is the fact that these games are difficult, or... are supposed to be... and so with that mind-set people will grab at any advantages and oppurtunities that present themselves. obviously. that's just... what you do, when you're trying to win something. and the best in... is already being in. not a lot of mystery to that. it's easier, and generally much more effective, to pick up where we left off with someone rather than to start something fresh with someone new.
and so there is way too much of this.
the pas truly is the present, in ORGs. and there is no future, for me.
with that said... i've joined amanda's game that she is hosting... namibia... i'm not sure yet whether i'll keep my spot or leave it but i do know that after that i will never ever be here again. i attempted retirement, and it was working good. but then i got sucked back in when i was drinking.
i now know the results of having that happen. i have a lot to draw on in comparing being away from here and being around here... and i know that being away is like 100% better.
i've been here long enough to be able to remember the good old days of ORGs... and that honestly is long enough.
*mwah*
i wonder if you've been around long enough to remember times when everyone hadn't already formed their groups, made their friends, cemented their cliques. back when these types of things were RELATIVELY new, when you could enter a game honestly and be on the same level playing field as everyone else.
i do. i remember a time like that. when you could come into a game without worrying about finding out who is who and shit. god that is annoying. without worrying about if you've pissed so and so off in a previous game, or if you were allies with whoever and so now you have to worry about how whoever will react if you don't plan on being allies with them again.
where you dont have the same fucking five people doing good in every game because they find out they have friends in EVERY game.
people should just start using aliases. i've seen games where you weren't ALLOWED to tell people who you were. mind you, most of the time in those games the end has been a group of people who joined together and who knew who eachother were, but atleast the host would make it an... actually i can't say that... there really is no way to govern that sorta thing. but i like the idea of it. forcing people to hide their identities. that way it's not just "oh yeah this is who i was in BT" "okay lets go to the end together then".
stupidity. utter fucking stupidity. who wants a recurring game for their entire career in ORGs? seriously.
there are some cliques that i know of who have quite literally been stuck in a loop for years. playing the same goddamn game over and over again with the same people, with the same results. and how do you find that fun?
keep in mind i am not talking abt any one game. i am just speaking generally...
i sometimes have fun with it... when people start doing that "so have you played before? have i ever played with you?" thing... i quite often just like to tell them straight out who i am, why people think i am the enemy, and what i'v done before. i use the whole past is the present tense idea exactly as they will, for shits and giggles. i never used to when i gave shit about my record and my stats. but nowadays you hear so much "oh this person did this in this game and tye were like this in this game so we gotta get them out right now in this game" bullshit. honestly, a big part of me feels like if that's what it's going to boil down to, why put a lot of water in the pot? why not just put like a tablespoon and make it quick, and make it easy...
if you know what i'm saying
that's what all-stars is for. recurring characters. it's legitimate to say "in season one of this series this person did this to me, now that it's all-stars i want revenge". that is legitimate. it's not legitimate to say "a year ago in some fuckin random game i got screwed and now me and all my friends are gonna screw you".
get over it. i've done that to make a point. to bring attention to clique-warfare and how childish and petty and pathetic it is.
funny thing.... the completely backwards thing... about tis whole topic is that, in my experience (and i've a wealth of it), most of this "clique warfare" is initiated by the people with the biggest cliques. the people that really don't need to be this childish. and the people who would never ever see for a second that they are childish... lol...that's who is, if anyone is, to blame.
see, i am quite often very childish. in several.... SEVERAL ways. and stupid. but atleast i'm mateur enough to notice the dumbassness of my ways. not saying i'll ever change it, but i see it. i recognize it. and that's something... atleast.
and yeah i guess there is a part of me that is just kinda jealous of tese big cliques these days. i used to be a part of it. for awhile there i literally got to be a part of the problem i am talking abt. a lot of it happens without even intending it, too. you just end up with people you've been with before and shit carries over, naturally. it just does. so and so expects you to be their friend as you were before, another so and so expects you to be after them as you were before... no one talks abt it, buries the hatchet, and so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, so to speak.
and there is the fact that these games are difficult, or... are supposed to be... and so with that mind-set people will grab at any advantages and oppurtunities that present themselves. obviously. that's just... what you do, when you're trying to win something. and the best in... is already being in. not a lot of mystery to that. it's easier, and generally much more effective, to pick up where we left off with someone rather than to start something fresh with someone new.
and so there is way too much of this.
the pas truly is the present, in ORGs. and there is no future, for me.
with that said... i've joined amanda's game that she is hosting... namibia... i'm not sure yet whether i'll keep my spot or leave it but i do know that after that i will never ever be here again. i attempted retirement, and it was working good. but then i got sucked back in when i was drinking.
i now know the results of having that happen. i have a lot to draw on in comparing being away from here and being around here... and i know that being away is like 100% better.
i've been here long enough to be able to remember the good old days of ORGs... and that honestly is long enough.
*mwah*
