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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Nov 29, 2010 0:36:06 GMT -5
Okay y'all, you know I may have quit, but that doesn't change that LIVIDMANDA IS IN THE BUILDING.and she came prepared! STARE INTO MY LASER EYES. I am NOT IN A GOOD MOOD right now but I'm not going to be TOO mean. I just want answers and I want them NOW. I'm asking questions that need to be asked and none of that annoying comparison garbage that makes ME vomit. Monica, you were a challenge WHORE to the MAX. You won every single immunity challenge from the merge on in. That's quite the accomplishment, but frankly I don't think it deserves a million-dollar prize. You were a total bitch who seemed to value this game as much as her "vagina." You lied to pretty much everyone at least once just to further yourself and you didn't even need to! And since the challenges sucked, I didn't have time for quite a few of them. You did. Too much time if you ask me. Based on this, I have two questions for you:
1) Based on your opening statement, you say you played a good social game. However, do you think you would have been in the finals had you not gone on such a challenge streak? Or do you think someone would have booted you for being an uber threat? I'd also like to know how you would have defended yourself. I'd appreciate it if you weren't so fucking smug, too.
2) Why should I give you my jury vote over someone that doesn't have endless hours to spend on spamming challenges? It was like you had no life whatsoever.Eliza, you came back into the game as an Outcast. Week one, you totally deserved the boot you got since you threw half the tribe under the bus in your drunken ramblings and pissed us all off. Then you did it again at merge when you inexplicably betrayed a SOLID alliance and you somehow got out of and are sitting here after riding coattails like the feline you are. Your opening statement also made you seem like an airheaded, ranting stoner. That made me want to vote for you even less. Especially since you didn't vote for the person who went home when you got voted out! And I don't know how you can say you never voted for the "wrong" person. Because some people on this jury are NOT happy with you at all. I know these questions are on everyone else's minds, so let me ask you:
1) Why do you deserve to win if you were voted out at the first Tribal Council?
2) What made you trust a LIAR like Monica over me?
3) How can you outright lie in your opening statement?Alexis, you made an incredibly stupid move around the time of the merge, yet you're sitting here and I'm the one bitching at you. Before I get anywhere... I'd like to say that I never planned on knifing you and had nothing against you. We just hardly talked! I told people what they wanted to hear and you were totally solid with me until the final five, in which it would have been a good ol' Kansai rumble with every woman for herself. And honestly, I would have wanted to break up Jaime-Christy at that point. But because you were the one to betray us, I really don't want to give you ANYTHING. You're the two-timing liar and I'm strongly discouraged from giving you my vote and your opening statement basically proved that. YOU were the rat from the start, not me. You made like no case for yourself and only seemed to hurt your chances. Your questions are as follows:
1) Looking back, do you think trusting Monica was the right move? Or do you think you'd have a better shot at winning with a different final 3, say myself and Christy?
2) Why should I give you my vote if you made yourself an outsider, then had to ride a challenge whore's coattails until the end?In addition, I have more questions for you bitches to answer: 1) Why did I quit this game? This one has a CORRECT answer, and if you get it right I'll be more inclined to award you the money. If you get it wrong... let's not go there. 2) Change one of the two people sitting next to you with someone on the jury. Explain why you did this and why that juror deserves a shot at the money. 3) Make me feel like a goddess. I want you to show me how badly you want my vote. This last one is to Monica and Alexis only.4) I checked my logs and I never talked to EITHER of you about ANYTHING other than Survivor ORGs. I talked to Eliza about all kinds of things and have a huge log with her, and she was out of the game for a few rounds. Tell me why I should give you my vote if we never talked about anything other than the game. I really don't think ANY of you deserve a million bucks. Nor did "Special Fred" but that's beside the point, he's on the jury and I already beat him up at Ponderosa. Now it's your turn to feel my wrath, bitches. Answer these questions as honestly as you damn well can. Feel free to be as detailed as you want. That might be better for you. I want answers. And just so you know, my jury vote is 100% up in the air, so you'd better answer these well or else you'll get zapped by my LASER EYES. And you most certainly won't be getting my vote. Oh, and feel free to reply to anything I said. I welcome a challenge That's all for now, bitches. I hope you enjoy answering these as much as I enjoyed writing them. And if need be, I can press some points further. From LIVIDMANDA with [no] love
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Post by Eliza Orlins on Nov 29, 2010 0:54:25 GMT -5
1) Why do you deserve to win if you were voted out at the first Tribal Council?
i deserve to win because i feel like i was the one who shaped the end of the game more than anyone else. if it weren't for me, you would most likely be here... or, well, you, christy, jaime... maybe still alexis. some variation of y'all.
and it was me that flopped, even in the revote when jaime left, alexis had to be convinced to vote her.
and after i did that i retained a good amount of control. i really did choose when fairplay went out, i decided that round that i was gonna try and make sure it finally happened and then it worked.
i did have alexis too on that one though, if it weren't for her also deciding it was time to get rid of fairplay, it wouldn't have worked.
i decided, with monica, when jane should go. because we saw her as a jury threat.
same with marcus and tyrone...
the only two people on the jury i didn't vote, and do a lot of work in getting others to vote, were you, who quit, and christy who left in a round which i had no vote in.
that's the best argument i can come up with as to why i should win. i really do feel i played the best social game of the three of us here, which in my eyes counts for more than winning challenges.
but that's my opinion, y'all may see it differently. and who knows, maybe all these decisions i think that i made were just things i was manipulated into
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Nov 29, 2010 1:06:01 GMT -5
So you're saying you deserve to win because you betrayed me? Uh-huh. Riiiiiight. You still have a LOT more to answer. So I'll wait until you do that before I eviscerate you.
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Post by Eliza Orlins on Nov 29, 2010 1:08:46 GMT -5
2) What made you trust a LIAR like Monica over me?
i trusted you more than anyone else in the game, actually. i have come to know over the short time that we've talked that you just don't tend to break your word... especially not early in a game. and i knew that in this game, especially, you wouldn't do that. you didn't care enough to do that.
the problem was i didn't trust the other two people in your alliance. which i regret on a personal level, not a strategic level. atleast with christy, i've talked to her since and i think she's really really cool now that i sorta got to know her.
but i did trust you the most. i have grown to trust alexis that much now. and when i made the deal with monica at F10... sorry monica but i didn't think i'd end up keeping it. i didn't trust her, i just saw it as a way to gain control, rather than following what jaime and christy want... which is probably what would have ended up happening if i'd gone down that road. i would have just had to depend on them keeping me around rather than depend on myself making the moves i need to make to stay in the game.
that's why i went with monica then.
on that note though, since then, i have grown to trust monica a lot more. admittedly a lot of it is because of the fact that i don't think it was really ever that advantageous for her to get rid of me... but, i can honestly say i do trust her, now, just still not as much as i trust you. or trusted you. you'd probably want to screw me over if u got the chance, now. lol.
so to sum up, i didn't trust her more than you. and i still don't.
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Post by Eliza Orlins on Nov 29, 2010 1:15:12 GMT -5
3) How can you outright lie in your opening statement?wasn't a lie, i felt rushed to write that. when i said that thing abt voting everyone that left, i didn't think abt your quitting and abt christy leaving when i didn't vote. and i wasn't talking about my first vote, i wasn't even talking abt my vote for brad, for that matter, i was just talking abt the jury members, the people that are present right now. i guess i should have said, everyone i voted left in the round that i voted them, since i came back. but like i said, i was kinda rushed in writing that and ummm... well, you were right abt the stoner part.
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Post by Monica Padilla on Nov 29, 2010 1:56:47 GMT -5
Monica's Response to Amanda
Hey, Amanda!
I'm not really sure what to say about my abundance of free time. I'm in my second year at university, and spend a lot of time with both my girlfriend and my studies (maintaining a 3.8 GPA).
To be honest, a lot the openings in my schedule came down to luck. The challenges that depended on postwhoring fell on days where I had breaks in my classes, and could get online. And, yes, I did value this game, but that's because I'm a competitor, and I think a competitor should always give everything that they can.
As for the lies I told that I 'didn't need to', I would say that, at the time, I definitely felt that any lies I told needed to be told for my own safety. Yes, there were times where my lies turned out to be totally unnecessary, but I didn't actually know that that's how it would turn out at the time. It was never the case that I lied to someone just because I'm stupid enough to think that lying a lot automatically equals a good player or something.
1) Based on your opening statement, you say you played a good social game. However, do you think you would have been in the finals had you not gone on such a challenge streak? Or do you think someone would have booted you for being an uber threat? I'd also like to know how you would have defended yourself. I'd appreciate it if you weren't so fucking smug, too.
I think my odds of being in the finals would have been drastically reduced. I know that everybody seemed to think that Fairplay and I were joined at the hip, and since he was spreading rumors about having the HII, that would definitely have made me the easier target. Also, Jane and Tyrone already knew that I was a challenge threat, and had targetted me for that reason, so I was definitely vulnerable there.
I think I would have defended myself via a couple of options. I had good connections with Jane, reasonably good connections with Marcus, and I knew that Eliza and Alexis would keep me around if I made it worth their wile. But, who knows? Obviously Marcus was gunning for me for way longer than I knew about, and Eliza and Alexis definitely betrayed me the round that Fairplay left, so I could very well have gone.
And, sorry if I come across as smug. I don't mean to be. I honestly am thrilled to be here, because, like I said, it's been a really, really long time since I made the finals of a game. (And, really? I'm pretty well aware of how much I'm loathed by this jury. I don't really have anything to be smug about.)
2) Why should I give you my jury vote over someone that doesn't have endless hours to spend on spamming challenges? It was like you had no life whatsoever.
I'd say that you should give me your jury vote because you obviously have been around the gaming scene for a very long time, and you know what makes a good player and what does not.
If you look at what was required to win each of those challenges, you'll see that I wasn't just spamming. In the first two individual challenges, the coins and the farming, yes, I was spamming.
But with the colors, I won because I was good at getting people to trust me.
In the majority rules challenge, I proved that I knew what people thought about me and the other people in the game (including that you all thought I was strategic, and fake).
In the counting challenge, it was part spamming and part intelligence.
The final five challenge, I once again proved that I knew what was going on in the game, by predicting who said what. (That last quote from Jaime, by the way, made me feel incredibly guilty and ashamed.)
The last IC, I proved that I... well... am a good writer, I guess. The only part of that that was game-related was my episode summaries. I listed not only the strategic moves that I made, but the moves that other players made, too.
So, I'd say that as someone who knows how to play this game, and play this game well, you should vote for me because I proved that I'm good at a lot of different aspects of the game.
1) Why did I quit this game? This one has a CORRECT answer, and if you get it right I'll be more inclined to award you the money. If you get it wrong... let's not go there.
Based on what I know, you quit this game because you disapproved of the way it was being hosted. You didn't like the challenges, which you felt were a waste of time, you didn't like the twists, and you didn't like Tyrone.
2) Change one of the two people sitting next to you with someone on the jury. Explain why you did this and why that juror deserves a shot at the money.
Do you want me to specify which of the other two I'd replace?
Either way, I'd change for Jane. Jane was hands-down the most robbed juror this season. As far as I know, she never willingly went back on any deal that she made, she was incredibly friendly and kind, she created the Black Widow Alliance, and she definitely gave me a run for my money in more than one challenge. Jane would have dominated anybody in the finals.
3) Make me feel like a goddess. I want you to show me how badly you want my vote.
Well, first off, I'd say that the fact that I spent the last half-hour typing up these responses, despite the fact that you seem to loathe my guts is proof that I want your vote. If I didn't, I'd just say "Whatever, you're not voting for me anyway," and leave it at that.
I'm not gonna give you a bunch of shallow compliments, because you're obviously smart enough to know when someone's spewing a bunch of fluff. So I'll be honest.
Amanda, I think that you're a player with an incredible amount of skill. I think that you know how to play, and that you obviously have incredibly high standards that you hold yourself to, standards that the three of us (obviously) don't meet. You have the good taste to be an Amanda fan, and since you love the hat she wears, it shows that you're not just some shallow person drooling over her. (Since most dudes aren't into hats.) I think you're a very passionate person, who isn't afraid to speak the truth, and you obviously care about this game, and that it have a winner worthy of your respect.
I want your vote, because I want your respect. Players are only as good as the people who respect them, as I think real-show Russell proved. It doesn't matter how much you manipulate or lie, what it comes down to is how much you can earn the respect of your fellow players. That's why I deserve your vote, because I know that if I get it, I'm getting the approval of someone whose respect does not come easily.
4) I checked my logs and I never talked to EITHER of you about ANYTHING other than Survivor ORGs. I talked to Eliza about all kinds of things and have a huge log with her, and she was out of the game for a few rounds. Tell me why I should give you my vote if we never talked about anything other than the game.
Well, that comes down to two things. Number one, we were on different tribes for almost the entire game. I generally avoid talking to people on the opposite side, because it's somewhat unrealistic, and also if you get caught doing it it's a sure-fire way to get yourself kicked off.
Number two, I only saw you online twice thoughout the entire game. Whether that's due to you having another AIM account or us just never crossing paths, I don't honestly know. But I do know that the two times we talked, I thought you were a great person and I really enjoyed talking to you.
But, if you're basing your vote solely on who talked to you about out-of-game stuff more often, I can't honestly say that you should vote for me over Eliza. If I could have talked to you more, I think I would have. But I didn't, and I guess it's fair to say that that was a shortcoming on my part.
I do still think I deserve your vote for the reasons I've already said, but at the end of the day, it totally depends on what you value most. If you value someone who talked to you about that stuff, then vote for Eliza. If you value someone who honestly tried their best to play a straight-up game, and wound up being forced by circumstances to lie, and gave their all to succeed in everything they could, then I would say vote for me.
Hope that's what you were looking for, Amanda.
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Post by Eliza Orlins on Nov 29, 2010 1:59:00 GMT -5
1) Why did I quit this game? This one has a CORRECT answer, and if you get it right I'll be more inclined to award you the money. If you get it wrong... let's not go there.
i wanna be the first to answer this one.
i believe you decided to quite the game because it assumes the lifelessness of it's players. or more so, sarah does. you do not like the challenges, and just generally the way it was run. and i believe you also did not like the way sarah was treating you, while you were here.
i hope i'm right. i mean, i shouldn't get that wrong. i better not.
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Post by Eliza Orlins on Nov 29, 2010 2:01:19 GMT -5
damnit monica you beat me again. you gotta fuck off girl LOL *mwah*
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Nov 29, 2010 2:16:07 GMT -5
Thanks for all of that, Monica! If you wish to specify which you'd replace, feel free to do so! I don't absolutely need that. Jane, however, did go back on a deal with me - we made a cross-tribal alliance during our judo match. But that pretty much couldn't happen. Just pointing it out! Also, I really should have gone visible on that AIM more often. That's sort of my fault too, and since we were on separate tribes that's forgivable. I have the same attitude - I never talk to someone on the other tribe about the game! And you know about the hat! Which does look great on her... and yep, I like Amanda for who she is! To both of you, thanks for all the effort. I really appreciate it And one more thing. Eliza... if you trusted me the most, why on earth did you betray me?
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Nov 29, 2010 2:18:22 GMT -5
Three smilies? Wow I missed that... yeah, I'm going to bed. Have a good night y'all!
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Post by Jane Bright on Nov 29, 2010 12:19:44 GMT -5
Jane, however, did go back on a deal with me - we made a cross-tribal alliance during our judo match. But that pretty much couldn't happen. Just pointing it out! Hmm, you expected me to honor a ''deal'' i made with you when we never really talked about it after that time? I wasnt just going to flat out tell you that i didnt want to work with you because i didnt feel like it was necessary to ''burn'' that bridge so early. I just agred on that deal but i didnt have any intention on honoring in, at least not until i actually needed it. Just pointing that out
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Nov 29, 2010 14:21:06 GMT -5
I said it pretty much couldn't happen. I thought there was a 10% chance of you honoring that deal. Hell, maybe I could have been in the Black Widow Brigade if I didn't quit.
Don't think that's in my confessional since I wiped it, but no matter. I came to you since, well, you were like the only option. But then the mess ensued... let's not go there.
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Post by Alexis Jones on Nov 29, 2010 17:17:22 GMT -5
Hey Amanda... so nice for you to drop bye. For starts i have never said that i have played this game honestly because i haven't. This isn't Survivor: Unicorns and Rainbows... this is Can you Survive, and i did what i felt was necessary to survive. Maybe some moves were unnecessary but after Brad left i got two votes, so i think i did a pretty good job. 1) Looking back, do you think trusting Monica was the right move? Or do you think you'd have a better shot at winning with a different final 3, say myself and Christy? yes i do think trusting Monica was the right move because if me, you, and Christy for example were in the final five. Your second question would be true... I would of rode coattails. I took my own game into my hands and trusted Monica and it delivered me to the finals. So I believe it established my game when i trusted Monica while i would of been a henchman of the Kansai alliance. 2) Why should I give you my vote if you made yourself an outsider, then had to ride a challenge whore's coattails until the end? An Outsider to who? You... its all from point of view hun. Afteri left the kansai alliance i was rather warmly greeted by not only Monica but also Marcus and Jane. Sure it was probably somewhat fake but i did not feel like an outsider. Also in NO WAY (I can do caps too) rode Monica's coat tail. If you wanted to say i rode anyones it would be Elizas because we made similar moves but I orchestrated some of those... probably like half. After Jaime left... the next two tribes me and Monica voted differently. I tried to get out her main ally Fairplay... it would not be a good coat rider if i didn't vote with my master. I played a much more independent game then if i would of stayed with y'all. 1) Why did I quit this game? This one has a CORRECT answer, and if you get it right I'll be more inclined to award you the money. If you get it wrong... let's not go there. Okay the answer you want to hear: Because Sarah rigged this game against you. And you were being discriminated against because she didn't like you. The true answer: While Sarah may not like you and who knows made some of the challenges slightly against you... you have a MASSIVE EGO and you didn't want to be defeated and voted out. So might as well quit and not get voted out right? 2) Change one of the two people sitting next to you with someone on the jury. Explain why you did this and why that juror deserves a shot at the money. I would pick you JANE. Once i switched over to the "dark side" Jane was really friendly to me and we created a bond. In the final five i was forced to vote her off and it was tough for me. While looking back she would of kicked my ass in the finals... she was always loyal to me and i felt bad. With that said she'd probably replace Eliza... because Eliza was voted out once... and since Monica never loses... we couldn't really get rid of her. 3) Make me feel like a goddess. I want you to show me how badly you want my vote. You are a goddess... it was nice of HADES to marry you. As i said before... you have a ego... and while its hungry, I sure as HELL aren't feeding it. I'm not going to suck your dick for a vote. A real juror would vote for who played the best game not who gives the best compliment BJ. 4) I checked my logs and I never talked to EITHER of you about ANYTHING other than Survivor ORGs. I talked to Eliza about all kinds of things and have a huge log with her, and she was out of the game for a few rounds. Tell me why I should give you my vote if we never talked about anything other than the game. We never really talked in general... I'm not good at checking whose online, especially when i don't need to strategize so sorry. I do regret not getting to know some people. Maybe i wouldn't have such a negative representation of you if we actually talked. As i said earlier though " A real juror would vote for who played the best game not who gives the best compliment BJ." Okay well in closing lets get one thing clear. As mean as i can be, this was not an attack of your real life character. I'm sure you are a cool person in real life. I do not like the way you played this game. Plus its monday. - Alexis
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Post by Christy Smith on Nov 29, 2010 19:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by Eliza Orlins on Nov 29, 2010 20:08:32 GMT -5
LOL... can't even attempt to follow that up
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